1. MrsPickron wrote:

I absolutely Loved Obama’s speech. “Eight is Enough” He came against and fully answered every attack that McCain tried to throw at him.

Yes, I do think Obama will have to explain why he didn’t pick Hilary especially now that McCain picked Palin. I’m very upset about that and I hope it doesn’t sway the undecided Hilary voters that way because she is woman.

2. Tom Penn wrote:

Barack threw touchdown after touchdown in that football stadium last night; he is ready to quaterback America!

Interestingly enough, I caught Cornell West afterwards on Tavis Smiley, where in effect, Dr. West suggested that Senator Obama’s speech wasn’t black enough … oh well.

Before the convention, Gallup poll had Obama & McCain at a dead even tie. Today, Gallup has Obama up 6 points, therefore, America liked the convention.

3. San wrote:

I think that McCain choosing a female is so transparent. Hopefully those ardent Hillary supporters have more sense then to vote for McCain solely because he put a woman on his ticket.

I thought that it was a perfect night for Barack Obama. His speech was fabulous and his delivery couldn’t have been better. He countered all of the attacks that McCain has made and he did so beautifully. I loved the fact that he made McCain’s campaign seem so petty and highlighted that McCain continuously tries to emphasize things that are so trivial and irrelevant to the significant issues. He truly is a gifted orator.

4. Garrett wrote:

Polls don’t put anyone in the Oval Office, Tom. It’s what happens in the voting booth.

I said it months ago, Obama is going to suffer a political death of a thousand cuts.

The magnifying glass is going to be put above his policy proposals, and the voters the democrat heirarchy loves to mock aren’t going to vote Barry into office.

5. Ann wrote:

ENOUGH!!!

I was awestruck!!! I loved it and I loved him- esp his tie. I love a man that can hang a suit…anyway….

His speech was very firm on his intentions for America and I think he did a good job of verbalizing why we shouldn’t elect McCain.

I was esp. happy that he addressed his supposedly “celebrity status” and he challenged McCain to quit questioning his patriotism. Great moves…

Now Marc if you come up in here with something less than an A for his speech I am gonna be mad at you! I got my eye on you!

~Ann~

6. Marc Lamont Hill wrote:

it’s coming in a minute. i’m still on denver time so i’m a little behind….

7. BigVic4 wrote:

Will go down in history as one of the best politcal speeches ever.

8. Garrett wrote:

Don’t short yourself, Marc, many consider you a big behind!

As far as Palin as McCain’s VP choice, not bad. She certainly brings more outsider/reformer credentials to the proceedings than Obama does, which will help get moderate/independent voters. For you lefties that will scream about her lack of experience to counter Obama’s lack of experience, what she’s done entails more of an executive skill set than Barry.

Too bad McCain didn’t choose a black woman . . .

9. Clifton Harrison wrote:

hahaha, Garrett, please don’t hurt yourself on 11/4 when Obama gets the president spot!! It’s over man…Repubs, pundits, try an spin that “experience” shit all you want, it’s not gonna work.

10. Clifton Harrison wrote:

and i don’t think you don’t care, you just don’t get it!!! YES!!

11. Bitter Brother wrote:

Foremost, anyone who disagrees with the fact that Obama’s speech last night confirmed him as one of the greatest political orators ever, holds an indefensible position. However, from a political perspective, I feel his positions were stated in very milquetoast fashion. Many of his rebuttals, everyone has been raving about, appeared to me to be his temporizing for political expediency. I have concrete standpoints on hot-button issues and I feel my pick for President should be able to stand for, and commit to most of those also. Although I despise the GOP, I think it was distasteful and out of character for him to make such a frivolous claim against Mccain’s record on Afghanistan. That may hurt him. He appealed to my emotions, moreover than my reasoning. Despite the detractors I enumerated, IT WAS AN A+ SPEECH and DAY 4.

Tom: The polls historically show improvement/favor for the candidate most recently coming from the convention, so that doesn’t allay much concern about November.

12. Bitter Brother wrote:

Jim Clyburn(SC) summed up Mccain’s choosing Palin as VP perfectly: He calls it ” a political hail Mary pass.” I wouldn’t worry too much about that influencing the election.

13. Clifton Harrison wrote:

that does sum up McCain’s VP pick perfectly…

14. Garrett wrote:

Emotions over reason. That sums up the Obama campaign perfectly.

15. wouldn't you love to know? wrote:

I personally enjoyed the entire DNC(ok sometimes i did hit mute) but Barack’s speech was the highlight for me. some may argue that, he sounded like a typical politician, and have said things a typical democrat would’ve said…..but i don’t give a fuck about that argument because, it sounded damn good coming out of HIS mouth. listen, whether Dem or Rep, they’re all liars…so why can’t we give Obama the chance of proving us wrong??? and i’m tired of hearing this “experience” argument, because, just how much experience did Dubya have??? shit the only thing he’s experienced at, is fucking up, oh yeah, and choking on pretzels. when Barack IS elected into office, he’s going to spend the first four years, cleaning up that big ass oil spill, good ol’ experienced Dubya left behind…

and the only reason McCain picked Palin, is to Rain on Barack’s parade. they couldn’t just let the man make history, in peace. they had to try to steal some of his thunder…ok we may have our first Black president(hoorah), and now possibly our first female veep(how original)…he need to get the fuck outta here with his McCorny McCrusty ass….

there is nothing original about that republican party…just a bunch of tired HATERS! that said, they need to sit their asses down and take a rest….8 is fuckin’ enough!!!

ps – fuck politics! lemme rephrase that, fuck politicians!!!

peace.

pss – i feel you on that kucinich fella Doc, his speech was on point…

16. Ann wrote:

WYLTK: where u been at???????????????

17. Marc Lamont Hill wrote:

yeah… i got to hang with kucinich this week at the convention, along with some other interesting characters…

18. Garrett wrote:

Right on cue, wouldn’t you like to know.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

19. econwhat wrote:

LOL…PALIN…LOL…can’t you just see the DESPARATION oozing from McCain’s pores. I can see a Comedy Sketch being formed right about now, LOL:

…at the conclusion of Barack H. Obamas’ Acceptance Speech in I, all of Bush-McCain’s short-listed candidates were spotted with tears falling ever-so-slowly from their eyes…they averted their eyes when he looked at them and felt that he was destined to suffer a political death of a thousand cuts that Garrett mentioned earlier, so as the faux maverick that he truly is, he did the only thing he could do…pick up the phone and dial PALIN’s number to offer this refrain:

“Please Me By Standing By Me Please”

LOL, a most appropriate PALINdrome I must say!

PS. Just so you know, let the record show, that I found this palindrome on an internet search and it is foot-noted to be created and authored by Peter Stein. It seemed SOO appropriate to me.

PALIN…PALINdrome…get it? LOL, LOL, LOL.

LOL…Hillary Clinton, is going to fight like a World Class Boxer, cause she’ll be the first female in the oval office as POTUS in 2012! LOL.

20. Clifton Harrison wrote:

straight up wyltk, they haters, but Obama know how to brush his shoulder’s off!! hahaha

21. ChgoSista wrote:

Marc, was Ms. Jones one of the ‘interesting characters’ you got to hang out with? (hahahaaa—couldn’t help myself–u left the door wide open)

22. inmyopinion wrote:

I agree with whoever said McCain’s choice of a woman for VP is transparent.I think he’s trying to sway those “Hillaryites” (PUMA’s). However, I think the re-infusion of race/gender into this campaign is going to be interesting to watch. Unfortunately, those “hillaryites” that might not move on logic or political position but on raw emotion. and it will be sad to see so-called “feminists” fall into the steriotypical behaviours often assigned to our gender (i.e. over-emotionalism, inability to be logical in the face of emotional situations, irrational etc.)

I also think it’s indicative of the hidden racism so prevalent in the feminist movement.

23. inmyopinion wrote:

my bad for all the typos…

24. inmyopinion wrote:

Oh and I thought Obama’s speech was excellent…

25. inmyopinion wrote:

Although there are some things he could’ve mentioned and not mentioned… Like I’m tired of hearing about the Clintons… I know he had to do this, but still… uggghhh… bur for the most part his speech was excellent.

26. wouldn't you love to know? wrote:

Ann,

i’ve been busy getting school junk, work junk, home junk, and family junk in order…but i’m back for now, that is, until the wind takes me again

Doc,

i heard something about Mumia speaking at the DNC. did he speak or was that bologna???

27. wouldn't you love to know? wrote:

btw – garrett sometimes we have to gamble. i’m pretty sure your aware of that, after all, you voted for Dubb twice!

so what if he (B.O) has a little emotion in his campaign. at least it proves he’s alive, and not some cold heartless piece of shit alien, from the planet “tough luck”…

i’m willing to roll the Die on Barack…either that, or Die enrolling John…

hmmmmmm which should i choose?

28. Garrett wrote:

Obama has nothing more than emotion in his campaign.

Oh mighty Oz . . .

29. Mrpowers06 wrote:

Garrett,

It’s quite apparent that Mccain is banking on disgruntled Hillary supporters to switch to the GOP candidates just because they have a woman on the ticket and not because of their actual policies. Isn’t that emotionalism?

It also buys in to the stereotype of feminist women being overly emotional and not using logic.

And please describe Palin’s “executive experience”. She served as city council member and mayor of a sparsely populated city in Alaska and then < 2 years as gov of the state. What am I missing? The most pressing problem she’s probably ever dealt with is a rogue moose entering city limits.

30. Ian wrote:

The Republican VP candidate is strongly against the rights of women to choice and equally strongly pro gun ownership. Nice try McCain, but it won’t work! I believe voters are vastly more intelligent than the Republicans give them credit for. We are not voting for someone just because she wears a skirt. We get it, and we are not buying it!

31. inmyopinion wrote:

Mr. Powers,
that’s the same thing I said a few posts ago. I agree with you totally..

32. Garrett wrote:

Well, for starters, Palin spent her entire political career crusading against the political machine that rules Alaska — which exists in her own Republican party. She blew the whistle on the state GOP chair, who had abused his power on the same commission to conduct party business. Obama, in contrast, talked a great deal about reform in Chicago but never challenged the party machine, preferring to take an easy ride as a protegé of Richard Daley instead.

Palin kicked ass, Obama kissed it.

33. inmyopinion wrote:

Ian,
this is true for most, but if we do see a large transition of hillary supporters moving to support McCain that racism will play a role in it.

34. wouldn't you love to know? wrote:

just like how, McCain kisses BIG OIL’s ass. . .

35. Mrpowers06 wrote:

Crusading against corruption is very admirable, but it doesn’t qualify one as 2nd in charge of the free world. And given McCain’s health and age, there’s a strong possibility that she could be first in charge. I’m still waiting for evidence of “executive experience”.

The woman has a bachelor’s in journalism and a minor in politics. She used to be a sports reporter! Compare that to Obama who studied and taught constitutional law, the law of our land. How can the Repubs harp on experience for so long and then make this brainless move?

36. Garrett wrote:

Obama has accepted more than $213,000 from individuals who work for companies in the oil and gas industry and their spouses.

Further, two of Obama’s bundlers are top executives at oil companies and are listed on his Web site as raising between $50,000 and $100,000 for the messiah.

Obama doesn’t use facts in his campaign, why should his supporters be any different?

37. Garrett wrote:

Mrpowers06,

Obama promotes himself as a non-partisan, change agent.
Please, give us the long list of non-partisan changes he was able to make in Chicago. In Illinois? In Washington, D.C.?

Actions speak louder than words. Obama’s record doesn’t match Obama’s marketing.

38. wouldn't you love to know? wrote:

so garrett, you’re basically saying, that the repubs uses nothing but facts to run their campaign???

negro, give me a break.(you’re african, whether you like it or not) and this one is not up for debate!

39. Mrpowers06 wrote:

I asked you about Palin’s executive experience. Now you’re throwing out red herrings.

40. Mrpowers06 wrote:

BTW, she’s going to be eaten aliven in the debates.

41. Garrett wrote:

Executive experience? Ok, she’s governor of Alaska. That’s the executive branch of government. What’s Obama’s executive experience? Besides, didn’t Barry say that his god-like judgement trumps HIS lack of executive experience?

I’m still waiting for Obama’s list of “change” from his time as a, cough, community organizer, state legislator or U.S. senator.
He’s done zippo of anything of consequence as a U.S. senator other than photo op co-sponsoring rubber stamp legislation.

Eaten alive in the debates? She’s got bigger balls than Obama.
Could probably kick the girly-man’s ass, too.

42. Chanel Graham wrote:

McCain’s decision to choose Palin as his running mate couldn’t have come at a more beneficial time for the Democratic camp. As Obama stated last night, McCain just doesn’t get it. To think that choosing a woman will somehow endear him to Hilary Clinton supporters or sway those on the fence around Obama is not only ignorant but it’s an insult to the intelligence of the American people. This inability to “get” where the people are coming from is the same deficiency that kept Hilary from the presidential candidacy. 2008 isn’t about politicians—black, female, old or otherwise. And clearly, it isn’t even about policy, judging by how little time we’ve spent discussing the issues. This year, it’s about the American people having had enough. In a political climate where absolute distrust of elected officials is more than par for the course, Americans are ready to take ownership. We’re only interested in a candidate insomuch as that individual inspires us to take responsibility for our own welfare. We’re not necessarily looking for someone to lead, just someone to mobilize.

Say what you will about his poeticism or emotional appeal; last night Obama captured the essence of the past 19 months of his race for the candidacy in one statement: “I stand before you tonight because all across America something is stirring. What the naysayers don’t understand is that this election has never been about me. It’s about you.”

43. wouldn't you love to know? wrote:

and out of all the damn govenors, he chooses the one of Alaska…i mean, what the hell ever happens in Alaska anway??? wait i’ll tell you, not a damn thing…for all that, he may as well have chose, the govenor of Canada, or something….

44. Garrett wrote:

Chanel,

The messiah wants to have the government take control over more of our lives, not less, and certainly not empower us.

McCain chose Palin because of her conservative bona fides.
Democrats chose Obama because he’s black.

45. Nubian King wrote:

The 2-year Governor of ALASKA is a good choice for VP to a 73-year old Presidential candidate????? George Bush’s failures should be enough to turn people to Obama. Garret, how much worse does it have to get for you to realize that Bush and people like you who put him in office, have hurt our country?

Mrpowers, you are definitely on point, Bruh. — ‘06

46. econwhat wrote:

“Today’s video of the day shows Barack Obama’s historic 2008 DNC Acceptance Speech. I have a lot of thoughts on this and will share them in a bit. Until then, what were your impressions?”

What’s up Dr. Hill? Still thinking? Still reading? Still mining? Still writing? We’re waaaiiitttiiinnnggg….

just kidding.

47. Garrett wrote:

Ironically enough, Palin’s time as Alaska’s governor has given her more foreign policy experience than the messiah since Alaska shares a land border with Canada and is within (very cold) swimming distance of the former Soviet Union.

48. Nubian King wrote:

McCain choose Palin not only because she is a woman but also because 1) he doesn’t get along with the other VP contenders and 2) he looks short and old as hell standing next to them. Again, the governor of ALASKA is the BEST choice for VP that the GOP/McCain could come up with??? Elizabeth Dole would have been better, if he had to go female……Say all you want Garrett, but your bias also makes you blind the great and well-oiled political team and campaign that Obama has set up. It is hateful of you not to recognize that he is something special. I should commend you on your loyalty, but that is what has us in the condition we are in now.

49. Garrett wrote:

Something special? Good lord, what the hell has the man done?
He’s basically run for President since he’s been a member of the Senate.

Obama is the crack salesman, and the crackheads are lining up.

50. wouldn't you love to know? wrote:

lmao….garrett what color are your pom-poms?? wait, let me guess, Red?…you’re a damn good cheerleader sir. Let me guess why republicans represent red (say that fast 3x’s)…hmmmm, is it because, they love BLOOD SHED????

i swear if McCain picked a damn ninja turtle as his veep, you’d still be down with his party…i can see you now, all hyped up, talking about some “COWABUNGA DUDE, DONATELLO for VP!!! NOW PASS THE PIZZA”….

i give you much props for loyalty sir, much props..

51. Garrett wrote:

“If a man hasn’t discovered something that he will die for, he isn’t fit to live.”

MLK

52. R.oB. wrote:

Marc,

The two things I liked were

No More Milquetoast. Take it to the GOP and assault them where it hurts. Policies and results that put the lie to the rhetoric and the ideology. Keep it values and results oriented and pound, pound, pound. This is a campaign, not a tea party.
Real Growth Policies. Focus on investing in working capital instead of tax shell games that enrich the people who’ve seen their share of GDP quintuple and average incomes double while the vast majority have lost ground over the last 40 years.

Garrett, you have got comedy! Ccomment (#47) blows your credibility on this one. By your logic, foreign embassies in Chicago afford Barack experience and since Italy is among them, he has experience dealing with the (Western) Roman Empire. You are so ideologically biased that if you said the sky was blue, I’d go outside and check just to be sure. As for emotions, the entire GOP platform is based on emotion: fear, greed and hubris. Every policy when played out invariably contradicts the rhetoric. Personally, inexperience in Washington is a strength in my book. It’s why i became interested in Barack in the first place. I wanted to see how long he could last as an outsider that functions as in insider.

53. R.oB. wrote:

#51 That is a good quote. Let me double check wikiquote.org…. JK

Here are a couple of apropos ones:

Communism forgets that life is individual. Capitalism forgets that life is social, and the kingdom of brotherhood is found neither in the thesis of communism nor the antithesis of capitalism but in a higher synthesis. It is found in a higher synthesis that combines the truths of both.

I am convinced that if we are to get on the right side of the world revolution, we as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values. We must rapidly begin the shift from a “thing-oriented” society to a “person-oriented” society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered.

54. Ced wrote:

Garrett, you have not the ability to be objective in this situation. In fact, you suck.

I don’t trust not a nann politician…. even Barackstar. That being said, I AM voting for ‘Rack because the last 8 years haven’t been “peachy.” These high ass gas prices are killing commuting college students; the absence of assistance that followed Hurricane Katrina and the WMDs that were in Iraq, right? And we still don’t know where tha fuck Garrett’s uncle BinLaden is…

When ‘Rack (cause I know him like that) says ‘Change We Can Believe In’, I believe that shit because a brotha has to have his shit SuperReady if he is going to make a move into 1600 P Ave. He’s going to bring a new way of thinking to the White House. And CLEARLY a lot of experience is not needed if they elected fuckin Dilbert W to two consecutive terms, and that’s insulting to Dilbert.

Before we even thought about Election08, I said a couple years back that I would vote for McCain if he ran because he would squash all that crip/blood dem/rep shit and get shit done, but it seems that he has abandoned that approach and the beckoning of his fellow elephants, so fuck him. It ain’t his time nor will it ever be.

OBAMA YALLLLLLLLLL!

55. R.oB. wrote:

LOL Ced. Uncle bin Laden. HARSH.

The problem Garrett is that you are so convinced that you are so right, you come off as an arrogant sophist. Most of your truth claims don’t stand against interrogation only mere contradiction. If you handled yourself and others with some dignity. Then perhaps a fair hearing and some honest debate. And if conservatives ate good for just one thing, it’s keeping liberals honest. Can’t do that making an ass of yourself and insulting people.

56. Garrett wrote:

RoB steps up to the plate and . . . a swing and a miss.

Barry is nothing more than a democrat political hack. Change?
RoB, Ced, Nubian King, WYLTK, you folks are hitting the Obama crack pipe HARD!

The Great Lie
America did not see the real Barack Obama last night.

By David Freddoso

For months, Barack Obama has complained about the poverty his family suffered while earning a mere $200,000 per year. Last night he ridiculed his political opponent for a joke he had made about high-income earners qualifying as “middle class.”

Last night, the man who opposed welfare reform bragged that while serving in Illinois he had “moved more families from welfare to work.”

The man who misled the public for four years about his vote to let a Chicago-area hospital continue leaving premature abortion survivors to die, and who promised that his first act as president will be to re-legalize partial-birth abortion, offered this calm plea to the nation: “We may not agree on abortion, but surely we can agree on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies in this country.”

The man who is evading legitimate debate by smearing our own mild-mannered, thoughtful Stanley Kurtz as a “fear mongering . . . right-wing hatchet man,” last night called for “a new politics for a new time.”

If you think that Senator Barack Obama stretches the truth, then don’t forget to take his introduction by Senator Dick Durbin with a grain of salt, as well. “To a country weary of the politics of division and deadlock, he has brought a message of unity and change,” said Durbin. “This man, Barack Obama, has inspired America to believe that we can come together and meet the challenges of this new century and rise up to a better place.”

What “better place” might that be? He can’t possibly be referring to Chicago. There must be someone out there who remembers the 2006 election, in which Durbin and Obama together thwarted the efforts of bipartisan reformers who had reached across party lines to clean up their city’s politics. In that election, which I describe in detail in the most recent print edition of National Review, the two senators endorsed, as a “good, progressive Democrat,” a man named Todd Stroger. Both Obama and Durbin knew well that Stroger would continue to use the Cook County payroll as a private fund to support the politically connected — they just didn’t care.

Stroger, a man described by liberal Chicago Tribune columnist Eric Zorn as “an unimaginative legislative drone” and a “machine hack candidate,” won his race with Durbin and Obama’s help. As expected, he went on to shutter health clinics, lay off hundreds of nurses and dozens of prosecutors, and raise taxes — all in order to pay for the hundreds of unqualified but politically connected patronage workers that he and various politicians had “sponsored” for county jobs. John Stroger, his father and predecessor, had even taken the wise step of putting Tony Rezko’s wife on the county payroll.

Obama notes that his opponent, Senator John McCain, voted with President Bush 90 percent of the time. Obama sides with Mayor Richard M. Daley 100 percent of the time, whether in regards to Stroger’s election or anything else that helps keep Chicago politics dirty. That is the real Barack Obama — not the smooth-talking Greek god who plays a reformer on television, but the man who has never met a Daley-backed Chicago pol he could not support. He doesn’t work against politicians for whom Tony Rezko raises money.

The real Obama sides with the Chicago Teacher’s Union 100 percent of the time. Education is a top priority for Obama except when it comes to fixing the terrible school system caused by CTU, and the five-hour, 45-minute school day that the union bosses adamantly refuse to lengthen.

“If John McCain wants to have a debate about who has the judgment and temperament to be commander in chief, that is a debate I welcome,” Obama said in last night’s speech. This was meant to be a defense of his foreign-policy abilities, but it is actually an amusingly counter-factual statement about the man’s life and political career. What sort of judgment has Obama shown in his political endorsements? How about his choice of friends, which one might charitably describe as “interesting?”

By what criteria does a man choose his friends and end up with the likes of Tony Rezko, Jeremiah Wright, and William Ayers? How does he choose his political advisors and end up with advocates of reparations for slavery, fans of Hugo Chavez, and two individuals who have been forced to resign over their alleged connections to Hamas?

When Obama’s poorly chosen friends become liabilities, he suddenly shows a level of cognitive dissonance unworthy of the obviously intelligent author of Dreams from My Father:

“This isn’t the Tony Rezko I knew . . .”

“The [Rev. Wright] that I saw yesterday was not the person I met 20 years ago . . . ”

Thanks to Kurtz’s work, we may soon hear, “That was not the William Ayers I knew . . . ”

What happens when you put someone like Obama in a room with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? A few years later, after a smiling President Obama’s reassurances about Iran’s intentions prove untrue, you might hear this statement from the White House: “This is not the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad I thought I knew . . . ”

The man who repeatedly stifled reform, who endorsed and embraced systemic corruption throughout his career in Chicago and Springfield, campaigns as the agent of positive change. The man with no judgment campaigns as the “wise leader.” There is a pattern to all this.

Many voters, similarly lacking in judgment, will be fooled by last night’s speech. If Obama wins, they should not be surprised, three years from now, to hear themselves saying something similar:

“This is not the Barack Obama I thought I knew . . . ”

57. Ced wrote:

It’s all Slytherin Hogwarts. Subjective Garbahhje

58. Garrett wrote:

I guess you’d consider Obama’s “tax credits” for people that don’t even pay taxes magic, then.

“Stealing” would be the more apt word, though.

59. R.oB. wrote:

That whole essay was written by the man I told you earlier was the author of an Obama hit job that diplomatically put is factually challenged. Opinions aren’t facts and this guy has the credibility of the National Inquirer with me. Factcheck.org. Politifact.com. I can get with that and have. They’ve put Obama on blast and correctly showing how that’s done. I love how you “independent conservative” types always resort to political propaganda and try to pass it off as truth. Doesn’t what part of the political spectrum you occupy it’s putting makeup on a pig and calling it beautiful.

Swing and miss. That’s a laugh.

Tell me another one, G.

60. R.oB. wrote:

PS. That op-ed from the Dean of Columbia? Embarassment. Couldn’t withstand 15 minutes of research on factcheck.org and McCain’s website. I noticed you had nothing to say when I responded to that op-we. Swing and miss. I can’t wait for your next one!

61. Garrett wrote:

You still haven’t given me anything that Obama has done to change the political reality of Chicago, Illinois, or the U.S. Senate. I’m not holding my breath.

The critiques of big ear’s policy proposals aren’t opininion, they’re fact. He would in fact give tax credits (cough) to people that don’t pay taxes. His capital gains tax increase and windfall tax proposals would in fact lead to less money in the US Treasury. Facts, not opinion.

Keep hittin’ that Obama crack pipe, RoB.

Well, gotta run. Barry got me a roster spot on the Celtics; he’s just trying to make the NBA more fair.

62. R.oB. wrote:

Critiques and projections into the future aren’t facts. That’s just plain stupid dude. I don’t say that with anger but sadness. Making a fool out of yourself served no good purpose.

63. Garrett wrote:

Look up what the IRS took in when the tax rates were higher, dude. Corporations and people do other things with their money when the government is looking to take more of it.

Would you rather have 10% of one million dollars or 5% of five million dollars?

Obama math: it doesn’t add up.

You keep hittin’ that pipe, dude.

64. Reynaldo wrote:

The “Obama pipe” is much better than the the “George W. Bush crack-pipe”. It amazes me how someone can be so critical and negative about Obama when they voted for one of the worst Pesidents in the history of this country – twice!!!

65. Ced tha Math Major wrote:

Doode, that pipe shit aint funny.

In essence ur saying that people that make under 250K don’t pay taxes….. clearly that’s a false statement because I’m nowhere near 250K and i pay taxes. Another one of your fucking lies.

10% of A Milli = 100K
5% of 5 Milli = 250K

math major dooode

66. DCI74 wrote:

Lol wow this thread is amusing.

Rule #1 in hole digging Garrett, stop digging when you’re standing in the hole.

67. Garrett wrote:

No hole here, DCI74. The IRS revenue data speaks for itself:
increasing the tax rates hurts the treasury rather than helping.
Just because Obama supporters want to keep on saying otherwise doesn’t make it so.

Let’s look at it this way. Obama is being marketed like a product. The claims about the product, though, just don’t hold water. “He’ll bring both parties together!” Oh, really? Not even his staunchest supporters can produce significant examples of that. I remember watching an interview with Bill Richardson, and he was asked to provide examples of Obama’s bi-partisanship. He couldn’t. There aren’t any. “It won’t be business as usual in Washington!” Oh, really? What change did the messiah enact in the political culture in Chicago? In Illinois? Zip.

Hello darkness my old friend . . .

68. DCI74 wrote:

Fall back Garrett, I’m not indulging you on this one because you still can’t explain how McCain’s plans are in better. You honestly think McCain and his lame VP are going to fix the mess created by the clown you voted for not once but twice, your boy Bush?? Man please and remember I’m neither a democrat or republican so while you kick dirt on Obama you can’t even justify why McCain is the better choice. His age ensures that there’s a strong possibility that if elected and his health fails him then Palin will be the commander-in-chief and you’re ok with that? Your blind allegiance is shocking.

69. Garrett wrote:

Speaking of blind ignorance, have you even taken the time to look at what she’s done in Alaska? I would guess that you haven’t. A strong case could be made that Ms. Palin has accomplished more in her public service career than Mr. Obama.

Here’s the deal about elected officials: they’re people, not superheros.

Is McCain superman? Certainly not. But I’m not looking for superman, and I’m not looking for the government to make my life perfect. While McCain isn’t my first choice, I will be voting for him and Ms. Palin because they won’t grow the federal government as much as Obama and I trust a McCain administration to keep us safe. End of story.

70. econwhat wrote:

I enjoy reading what they have to say:

econ4obama.blogspot.com

that’s it for now…

71. Logic wrote:

Garrett,
Economics is a social science and its ability to definitively predict outcomes is more of an art. That said, it is the ability of the “artist” to predict the outcome of economic policies. That is why you so many economists in opposition to each other. The reality is that no one knows how tax increases will effect our economy.

Secondly, why is it so bad to give tax credits for people who don’t pay taxes? This country is so rich that our poorest citizens should at least have their basic needs satisfied.

72. DCI74 wrote:

“Speaking of blind ignorance, have you even taken the time to look at what she’s done in Alaska? I would guess that you haven’t. A strong case could be made that Ms. Palin has accomplished more in her public service career than Mr. Obama.”

Then sir you would guess wrong. See I am an undecided voter so I have taken the time to read up on Palin and everyone else and like I stated in another thread she has done a lot in terms of the environment, ethics, and crossing the party lines to get things done and deserves to be very proud of her accomplishments. She has come a long way from being a running a fishing business to running a small town to being a governor and clearly she has more public policy experience than Barack but that’s not my point of contention. One of the biggest sticking points that both parties have used as barbs against each other has been foreign policy experience or lack thereof which she has none yet somehow the standards are apparently different when it comes to Republicans. The Democrats and Republicans blasted Barack for his lack of foreign policy experience yet there is no evidence of Palin’s experience in that area and being the governor in a state that as you stated in a previous post “is close to China and Russia” is laughable and holds no weight. See its bullshit responses from people like you and your ilk that just makes me dislike the political process even more because it’s so convenient to cherry-pick who’s done what but no one wants to hold everyone to the same standards. If foreign policy experience is as important as it was made out to be during the primaries then it’s a joke that Palin is even in the mix.