1. Piscean Princess wrote:

where in the sam hill are afrikabelle, ting, hal, and all the other folks from back in the day? i miss y’all

2. San wrote:

Hey Piscean…I’m still around. Unfortunately don’t get to post as much. The business of schizophrenic patients has been booming lately and keeping me very busy! I’m sure Afrika, Ting, and Hal have all been up to no good.

3. carisma wrote:

Black people lack unity and self respect

Lil Wayne gets no love in DC because he’s Lil Wayne. most southern rappers get no love.

Grown men wear beards because they are supposed to. signifies wisdom, all of the prophets and most pharohs or kings wore them. well, only few deserve to wear them. clean cut faces are gross.

4. ChgoSista wrote:

Piscean, I’m not sure if you were including me in your “Where are they” post, , but I have been cheating on y’all with my high school graduating class’s “Ning” site! That shit is mad addictive!

5. jazzy wrote:

What’s wrong with grown men wearing braids? I think most people wouldn’t find it inappropriate for a grown-men to wear dreadlocks, so why not braids?

6. DCI74 wrote:

PP, Frika is mad busy, she recently started working in production for MSNBC.

7. Piscean Princess wrote:

thanks for checkin’ in, y’all (San, ChgoSis, DC on behalf of A/B). as much as I still love coming up in here every day, I miss the glory days of 2006 and early 2007.

8. DCI74 wrote:

Ahh yes PP, those were the days. I can’t front even though growth is cool it doesn’t feel the same, you know?

9. San wrote:

Yeah I agree Piscean and DC…we had us some good times back then!!!

10. Tanya wrote:

What is the biggest problem facing Black people?

The most significant problem facing Black people and the greatest hurdle they have to clear is the fact that far too many of them lack morals and self confidence.

Why does DC hate on Lil Wayne?

I think DC hates on Wezzy for the same reason anyone hates on anything; he doesn’t understand him.

Why do grown men still wear braids?

I have no idea why grown men still wear braids, all I do know is that it is unattractive and degrading and I will never hire or date a man with braids.

11. DCI74 wrote:

See I know Marc threw that question out there on purpose and even though I have explained myself repeatedly it’s still falling on a few deaf ears. Since Marc likes to borrow lines from Common, I’ll do the same; “if I don’t like it I don’t like it / that don’t mean that I’m hating…” It’s so funny to me that if a person doesn’t agree with what some say is hot or relevant they’re immediately deemed haters which is ridiculous. For whatever reason this mentality seems to be much more pervasive among hip hop heads.

There is nothing incredibly deep about Wayne’s lyrics that make them beyond my comprehension so let’s put that to bed right now. As I’ve stated before, I’m a writer and artist myself so lyrics have and always will be important to me no matter how good the delivery may sound, thus my issue with Wayne. He makes topics I find musically boring and passe (drugs, guns, money, cars, jewels, women, sex) sound really good because there is no disputing that he can spit. If we are just talking about basic rapping ability then he is certainly one of the nicest but I’m listening for more than that. Some people forsake lyrics for style, that’s fine and I used to do that as well but not anymore. I don’t care how well you say it, I’m not interested in you telling me about the half million you made pushing bricks of yayo. When I was in high school, listening to music like that felt good, it felt intoxicating like I was being rebellious so I get how Wayne’s music makes his hordes of younger fans feel. But I’m not a young man anymore so I don’t need to use music to be feel rebellious.

Now I know some fans of his will say ‘he talks about other things, he does have deeper stuff’ which may be true but none of that stuff gets released and he’s not that interesting enough for me to seek it out. I’ve heard some of his other unreleased stuff like “Dying” which is very deep and a stark departure from the aforementioned topics so clearly he’s capable or more depth. I’m always reminded that even the biggest selling and most popular artists still only attract the attention of a few million people while there are still billions that aren’t fans. Norah Jones is incredibly talented, put out good music and has a sizeable fan base supporting by very little promotion, yet there are millions if not billions who have no idea who she is or aren’t fans of the music she makes. Are they haters too?

12. www.rayandsamara.com wrote:

or could it simply be the fact that his face looks like a subway car with grafitti all over it?

13. Piscean Princess wrote:

No, DC, it is a completely different vibe. It’s still good to come up in here every day, but it is nowhere near like how it was. Before it felt like dinner with friends…and that was back when I was scared to post ’cause it seemed like everybody knew each other, and I didn’t know the jokes!

14. Max wrote:

I completely agree with you DC, plus I’ve been laughing for months about when Lil Wayne rapped that one of his favorite TV shows is ESPN News. First of all, why the hell should I care what your favorite TV shows are? And second, ESPN News is a channel.

15. ChgoSista wrote:

OKAY SISTAS–IT’S TIME TO TALK “SEX & THE CITY: THE MOVIE”!!!! WHO SAW IT??!!

16. Miss Martin wrote:

GREAT movie! Saw it twice this weekend…..”LOVE is one label that NEVER goes out of style”! That’s the last line of the movie and pretty much sums it up..a TEN….FIVE HUGE STARS! a 2 and a half hour movie but it moves…..the writing in the movie is impeccable. Mr. BIG….put—it—down in the movie…..I really liked how he put his foot down (in terms of “how” couples go about getting married)

Ever thine
Ever mine
Ever ours

17. DCI74 wrote:

PP I have been feeling that way for a while and I could feel a change but couldn’t quite put my finger on it, you know? It’s just very different now.

Lol @ Max, yeah what is that about? That’s like saying my favorite meal is Burger King lol.

Oh lawd the SATC movie talk is about to start so I’m out!

18. ChgoSista wrote:

Aww DC–stay with us, baby… Hahahaaa…

Miss Martin: Girl, damn all that love shit–didja see ‘Carrie’s’ pewter Louis Vuitton??? DAT SHIT WAS FIYA!!!

19. ChgoSista wrote:

OK, I guess I will speak on the “love” part of the movie. U r right Miss Martin about Big and his stance. But would you agree that a lot of Big and Carrie’s problems, hell, and this can go for real-life couples, too, are a result of her girls being too much in her business??

I mean, don’t get me wrong, my girls are my consultants, too, but not through every nook and cranny of my relationships!!! Geez!

Big’s “sexy factor” was off the charts in this movie. Not that I find him fine or anything, his AURA is sexy!

I kinda wanted Samantha to get with the neighbor guy, but I guess the writers figured that would’ve been too easy.

I wish they gave J-Hud a meatier role.

20. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

oh you guys, stop CRYING. you’ve gotta take the old with the new ya dig??? what’s wrong with the new crew of people? damn, what y’all don’t like us????…you know something, do you old farts want to fight???

but as far as the sex and the city movie, i haven’t seen it yet.
i don’t mind you guys talking about it, spoiling it and everything though.

i only want to see the movie, so i can see their gear that’s all. oh excuse me their “emsembles”…

truthfully, that’s the only reason why i used to watch the show…

21. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

*ENsembles

22. Miss Martin wrote:

LMAO at Chgosista…..THE FASHION WAS O-V-A….that’s completely undeniable!

I would agree that her 3 sidekicks (and the hag) definitely played a role in Carrie’s over zealous pre-marital behavior and women MUST do a better job of keeping certain aspects of our intimate dealings—-well just that INTIMATE……I have a strict policy with mis chicas “good girls never tell” I keeps my business, MY BUSINESS……

Carrie’s boss (MURPHY BROWN and shit..lol) ALSO played a HUGE role in her craziness…would you agree?

J Hud’s role (IMHO) was symbolically HUGE in the movie….she really was Carrie’s “Saint Louise”….she put Carrie’s life “back together” (so to speak) and helped restore her faith in love! I think her role was sufficient enough for the movie (although her presence visually would have been less——well——less devoid of people of color—to be pc)

wyltk–lol, she are such a fuckin’ lady! I LOVE IT…..blogs are for everyone, whether newbies feel welcomed or not….keep blogging here bookie….I love your posts

23. Tanya wrote:

WYLTK,

I’m with you! I digg this blog in its present tense!

I have no idea what the vibe was like before, but everyone on here adds context and subtext to the discussion, in their own special way, even Garret, John and James!

24. DCI74 wrote:

San/PP for me I think I started to notice the change when omo got sick because he brought a very unique energy and perspective to the site which to this day is sorely missed. And of course I can’t forget about Brother Lightness and Brother Spotless, BigVic who comes around every so often, RAD and certainly Dr. ting lol I still remember her gossip blog, it was just a really unique group of characters. I’m seeing a Barbershop reunion in the near future.

25. DCI74 wrote:

R.I.P. Bo Diddley, rock & roll and musical legend

26. Piscean Princess wrote:

Oooooh, DC, you taking me back! Got me all misty up in here thinking about Big Vic and Omo, the Lightness & Spotless duo. I need to be a part of this reunion, dammit. I will freaking walk to Philly or Connecticut or L.A. or wherever it needs to be!!!

I think instead of sitting around in this thread, waiting for something exciting to happen……[crickets chirping]……I’ll go back to some of the old threads and indulge my nostalgia.

27. www.rayandsamara.com wrote:

pp how are your plans going?

28. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

awwwwwww PP,you got me up in here crying. i’m feeling your pain girl, and i didn’t even get an opportunity to blog with some of whom you’ve metioned.

Omo for one, through reading his posts, seemed very deep and interesting. i would’ve loved the opportunity to have blogged with him, i know that would’ve been an experience.

the Brother Lightness & Spotless duo, i thought was some mean trick. lol, i thought that was, someone bored, trying to switch it up here and there..LOL i confess….but i did realize it was two different people….eventually….i enjoy BOTH of their posts…

i say, some of these peolpe need to come out of hibernation, it’s spring now. plus i want PP to be !
where are you guys?? come on and get in this gumbo! mix a lil’ old with the new….

thanx miss martin, i love your posts too!

oh btw, where’s derek, and all the other jackasses???

29. Piscean Princess wrote:

@ Sammy B (for old times’ sake) – they’re not. had to postpone (read: cancel) that.

@ WYLTK – I’m tellin’ you, RWS, natural nubian, and many, many others….it was good times. And I just came back from my journey down memory lane and since Management won’t reinstitute the freaking spam blocker, our old comments have been hijacked by spam and random bullshit posts.

I think I’ll give a newcomer a “Welcome To The Barbershop” gift basket, for old times’ sake. Since I can’t go back & read our old stuff.

30. DCI74 wrote:

PP I was just looking at some of the old posts and it really sucks that most of our comments are gone and have since been replaced with spam.

Marc also needs to bring back the Poetry Corner, that haiku thread we had a while back was fire!

Uhh wyltk, nobody misses derek.

31. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

lmao!

32. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

me personally, i like a little bit of everything. a little bit of jack ass, a little bit of friendly, a little bit of timid, a little bit of know-it-all, a little bit of angry, a little of everything……i like what everybody has to bring to the table. that’s what make this thing interesting and fun…..you can’t just have comfy and cozy…you know??? this blog represents, what life is really about…CHANGE…

and i think it’s lovely….

oh and thanx for the basket PP, i love orchids…

33. Piscean Princess wrote:

remember hot chocolate boy…

34. DCI74 wrote:

Lol yes hot chocolate boy was a wild one!

35. lisa wrote:

anonymity pleases me, but I don’t consider myself a lurker

However you must know, when your moniker comes to mind, I pray for a deeper understanding of your opinions and I pray that each of us seeks to know God more and stand in God’s loving embrace, in spite of trying times that surely occur in each of our lives.

I think some of my comments may have needed more thought before hitting the (submit comment) button, my father says that I will either inspire or provoke when I’m passionate about something and he always prays for the former cause the latter may cause me harm.

36. Tanya wrote:

Lisa, what are you talking about???

37. San wrote:

Awe yall are bringing me to tears too talking about the old days. Of course I welcome all of the new additions to the family. (WYLTK I need to give a special shout-out to you…you are hilarious and I always love reading your posts). I do still miss the old days and I definitely think that The Management should arrange a reunion upon his return.

38. Garrett wrote:

Barack Obama: Affirmative action won him the democrats’ nomination, his leftist policies will cause him to lose the general election.

39. lisa wrote:

Tanya, I was referring to the “old days” specifically my blog encounters with omodiende. Just reflection that is all.

40. DCI74 wrote:

Yeah that makes perfect sense Garrett. Even though affirmative action was created as an attempt to balance the playing field that for centuries has been dominated by white men, hundreds of years had to go by before a non-white man secured the presidential nomination of one of the two major parties in this country. Yeah, that is completely logical, smh.

41. Garrett wrote:

It makes sense when one looks at Obama’s resume and government service (in his case, photo ops).

People that want the government to solve their problems, oops, I mean, people that are interested in “social justice” think Obama is the messiah, I get it.

Obama is just the same old, ultra-liberal in a different package.

In some ways, it might be a good thing in the long run if Obama would win. Could be another nail in the coffin of liberalism.
Lose the battle, win the war.

42. Max wrote:

Garrett I don’t think Affirmative action won Obama anything. He won because he’s more marketable than Clinton was. And if he loses the general election (which unfortunately I believe he will), it will be because there is enough white supremacist sentiment in America that people who wouldn’t normally show up to vote will turn out in sufficient numbers in order to keep him out of office. 2004 proved that the younger generation (mine) doesn’t show up to vote, and so I don’t think he has a fighting chance. And don’t come back at me with “Americans don’t care about race, they care about policy and fair representation etc.” Because I believe that you would vote for Obama if you agreed with his policies, but I don’t believe that the rest of America feels the same way.

43. Garrett wrote:

I’ll agree that Obama was more marketable to the dems, especially to the extreme left of the party. Being the most-left democrat got him the nomination, but it’s not going to get him electoral votes where he needs them.

Yes, there are people that wouldn’t vote for Obama, even if he was a conservative (I would, though), because of the color of his skin. But what percentage is that? I don’t think it’s a majority of Americans. Not even close.

44. Ian wrote:

If Hillary was a man, we would say she is a sore looser.

45. DCI74 wrote:

So again let me be sure I understand you Garrett, Obama has earned nothing on his own, it’s all been due to affirmative action? He didn’t earn his undergrad degree, he didn’t earn his law degree, he didn’t earn the votes of the Illinois voters that brought him into the Senate and he didn’t earn the millions of people that voted for him to represent the Dems in the fall? He earned none of those things and owes all of his accomplishments to affirmative action quotas? Man if that is what you truly believe all I can say is wow.

I get it Garrett, you don’t like Obama but to sweepingly say that he’s won because of affirmative action is more off-base than a drunken shortstop.

46. Garrett wrote:

Not just affirmative action. Let’s add slick campaign marketing and delusional voters.

As far as his education, yes, he earned the degrees. But was his race a factor in his even being admitted to those institutions?

47. ChgoSista wrote:

“But was his race a factor in his even being admitted to those institutions?”–>NO, HIS GOTDAMN **BRAIN** WAS!!!!!!!!!!

48. Garrett wrote:

Since none of us were involved with the admissions process, it’s just speculation.

Some admissions boards, though, do use racial quotas as one of their amdmissions variables. That means that some qualified students are being denied admissions into the school of their choice because of their race.

Isn’t that racism? Oh, no, wait, I think progressives call that diversity.

49. DCI74 wrote:

“But was his race a factor in his even being admitted to those institutions?”

Are you asking me or telling me? Because unless you were apart of the admissions board there is no way you can say that it was. Is this your way of insinuating that no person of color earned their admission to a school of higher learning?

50. DCI74 wrote:

“That means that some qualified students are being denied admissions into the school of their choice because of their race.”

Is the fact that for years people of color weren’t even legally allowed to attend mainstream colleges lost on you? So you’re content with things being the way they were, Christian white males being the gatekeepers of education, employment, finance, and politics and damn anybody else?

51. Garrett wrote:

Race shouldn’t be a consideration in the admissions process, period. Take your pool of candidates and offer admissions to the top candidates. Same goes for hiring practices.

I can’t prove that Obama received admissions due to racial quotas, but then, you can’t prove the negative, either. Likewise, I can’t prove that his race helped him garner the nomination, but you can’t disprove it.

52. Garrett wrote:

The head of the admissions department at the college that I attended was a woman when I gained admission back in 1982.

Likewise, the CEO of the last corporation I worked for, Pearson,
is Marjorie Scardino.

Cry me a river.

53. ChgoSista wrote:

Whatever, Garrett.

54. Garrett wrote:

There are those that see the glass half-full, and those that see the glass half-empty.

Perspective matters.

55. ChgoSista wrote:

((waving white flag))

56. DCI74 wrote:

First of all Garrett you can’t use women’s rights and racial discrimination in the same argument because they don’t coincide.

You are absolutely correct, race should not be used a factor and race shouldn’t have been used as a factor to deny people of color from the same liberties all American’s should be able to enjoy. In the real estate business I shouldn’t have to deal with steering and redlining because people should be able to live wherever they can afford to live but the fact is illegal practices have to be systemically dealt with. See you can’t just overlook years of systemic racism when white people got jobs and an education for no other reason than being white, having nothing to do with intelligence or aptitude. Racial discrimination was once completely illegal yet according to you nothing should be done to fix the blatant imbalance which is amazing to me.

57. Garrett wrote:

It’s amazing to me that people want to use racism to solve racism.

58. natural nubian wrote:

#28, princess i am still here. i just keep finding more & more blogs to read tho and sometimes cannot leave my $2 in the collection plate.

Garret, you are a trip. Bottom line is the highest office in the land, the big-O, has always been held by a white man ’cause white people still can’t admit that they have a problem identifying with minorities. Specifically Mr. Obama, a black man, representing this nation. Hell, yall barely care what happens to blacks in the country so long as it doesn’t affect your bottom $ or personal lives. Past white presidents have always needed to appeal to whites and know (whether or not they want 2 admit it) that they really don’t care for the minority once they have obtained the official position as commander in chief. Will Obama be any different? I don’t know. But I most certainly have faith that he will be the step towards the direction that this nation needs to begin to helps the wounds from its past heal.

59. Garrett wrote:

Dang, you got us natural nubian. I was wondering when someone would use the secret decoder ring.

While you (and others) have misplaced faith that Obama will lead our country to the leftist promised-land, many voters don’t want to be forced down Obama’s socialist path.

We’ll see which side has the greater numbers.

60. DCI74 wrote:

And Garrett I’m amazed at the ease with which you can kick dirt on a policy designed to create opportunities for people other than white males.

So how exactly would you fix a system to ensure that legally all people regardless of skin color have access to the same opportunities? How would you ensure that no one is excluded from education, employment, real estate, or voting in a system that ignored them from its inception? How would you ensure that the “old boys club” includes people that don’t look like you?

61. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

awww shucks San, thanx for the love. i feel so, so, well so, well…….welcomed!

Garrett get’s on my last damn nerve.

((waving BLACK flag, with large breasts on it))

don’t worry chgosista, i have another one!

62. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

and might i add, a BOOTY.

63. DCI74 wrote:

Lol damn wyltk! I might need to check out that flag for uhhh research purposes, yeah research

64. Tanya wrote:

“…more off-base than a drunken shortstop.” – DC that was a good one! I’m going to use that! Don’t worry, I’ll cite you!

“Garrett get’s on my last damn nerve.” – WYLTK, you are not alone!

Garrett you are a damn fool. But you’re not that foolish. I know you are just in here trying to start some ish. There is no way anyone with half a brain would make those statements. We’ve had enough of your devil’s advocate.

65. Garrett wrote:

We already have plenty of anti-discrimination laws on the books, DCI74. What more do you want? Life is tough. We can’t legislate that everyone’s life is going to be cake and ice cream.

66. Regkam2 wrote:

Garrett, White males have had their affirmative action for over 300 yrs. What do u think slavery, Jim Crow and Segregation was all about? Stop, bitching. White males still control every industry in this country. In America, White Supremacy rules, so stop using that lame ass ‘reverse racism’ bit. Blacks control no sector of power in this country. 99% of all the decision makers are white males. Who controls the media? Who control entertainment industry? who controls education? What color is 99.9999% of the governors in the US? What color is 99.999% of the US Senators? Who sits on the Federal Reserve Board? What color is 85% of the police force is this country? Even if Barack was elected president, it will fundamentally mean nothing for the black collective ’cause he will be the employee/spokesperson for rich white males who hide under corporate veils.

Besides the main benefactors of Affirmative Action were white women (and now Asian and Hispanics).

Sure we have anti-discrimination laws on the books, but we don’t have the power to make sure that they are enforced. Anti-discrimination cases are hard as hell to prove which is why many are tossed out.

Again, racism is prejudice plus power. No group of blacks have the power to effect any group of whites and get away with.

67. Regkam2 wrote:

it

68. DCI74 wrote:

What more do I want Garrett? I want you to answer my question, that is what I want.

Since you are so against affirmative action and you seem to want to ignore the years of affirmative action white men have enjoyed and that you now benefit from, what is YOUR solution? How would you include people in system that was designed specifically to exclude them, how would you fix that? Or do you even care? Steering and redlining is also against the law but it still happens so just because there is a law doesn’t mean people feel any compulsion to follow said law. You seem intelligent Garrett so I have a hard time believing that you are this out of touch.

69. Garrett wrote:

First off, I don’t agree with your premise.

Speeding is against the law, too, but yet people continue to do it. What should we do, put a police officer in every car so that people don’t speed?

You folks believe in the almighty liberal/socialist government to make the world fair. I don’t.

The world isn’t perfect. It never will be.

You point to the evil white man as the root cause of the world’s ills. How convenient. What a cop-out.

70. Tanya wrote:

Regkam and DC, THANK YOU for shutting Ignorant Garrett down!

71. Garrett wrote:

Yes, I feel so shut down . . . I know, I can just call Obama and all will be well again.

Obama as the presumptive nominee for the dems has Martin Luther King rolling over in his grave.

72. Regkam2 wrote:

What da hell MLK has to do with Obama? You sound like those individuals who hated/feared King when he was alive, but in death you revere him (or at least use his name for your sick agenda).

73. DCI74 wrote:

You’re funny Tanya but seriously my intent is not to shut anyone down, I just want some real answers that’s all. I’m open to really discussing the issue instead of making short snippy statements that dance around the topic.

74. Max wrote:

Garrett, I agree with you that affirmative action is a flawed system. That being said, it was put into place in order to correct a much more flawed system.

I often have this argument with my father who was twice in his life passed up for a promotion in his workplace; apparently due to affirmative action. He claims that on two separate occasions he was the more qualified person, but the promotions went to two different under-qualified colleagues who were Black. I understand his being pissed off and all, but you know what I ask him when he brings this up? I say, “Hey Dad? How are you doing now?” I’ll tell you how he’s doing now; he’s retired at the age of 57 and due to his various pensions he’s making more money now than he was when he was working. Then I ask him what percentage of African American men aged 57 he thinks have as sweet a deal as he does right now as opposed to the percentage of White Americans his age who are doing as well as him or better.

Now a short list of facts:

1.)For a loooooong ass time in this country, Black people got a raw deal. Not like “passed up for a promotion or admission into a particular college” raw deal, I’m talking “not allowed to eat at certain places or drink out of particular water fountains, and forget about going to most colleges because they don’t accept your kind” raw deal. And that’s just 50 years ago. If you want to go back further we can get into some more serious dehumanization if you want.

2.)Affirmative action is a flawed attempt to improve the lot of Black people in this country. Yes, a percentage of White Americans have been affected negatively by affirmative action. Garrett, you’re a member of the “toughen up and stop whining” school of thought, right? Those White kids who get turned away from Harvard because they already have enough White kids will just have to buck up and go to Brown. I’ll shed a single tear for them. So practice what you preach Garrett, or do you need a shot of insulin for your cryabetes?

75. Garrett wrote:

Do Americans of asian descent need affirmative action?
What’s their percentage of out of wedlock birthrate?
Drug usage?

I’ve never said that slavery didn’t happen, that Jim Crow laws were a good thing, or that segregation was a good idea.

On to another topic: Hillary’s end-game. This is all about the 2012 nomination. When Obama loses, she can say, “Hey, don’t blame me, I was the good soldier and offered to be on the ticket. He turned me down.”

76. DCI74 wrote:

“Do Americans of asian descent need affirmative action?” – Not applicable because no Americans of asian descent were forced into slavery, stripped of their rights, systematically excluded from the basic of life’s liberties and then had to fight to get some of those rights restored.

“What’s their percentage of out of wedlock birthrate?
Drug usage? – Completely irrelevant

So since you clearly have no intention of answering my question Garrett I’m going to leave it out there to the lurkers because I’m sure people have been reading this thread for days now. So if anyone of you want to jump in an answer the question Garrett cannot, feel free.

77. Garrett wrote:

DCI74, I answered it. We don’t need any more laws, we don’t need “Thought Police” to make sure we all hold hands. That will never happen. No state-imposed ideal of equality will ever take place. Plus, it will never be enough for leftists.

Slavery is over. Get on with your lives.

78. Garrett wrote:

P.S.

The system is open to all that want to participate. There is no guarantee of success, however. That’s life, though.

79. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

this post IS here to talk about anything right?
well i want to talk about this:

good morning people, i hate to break up all of you guys stimulating convo’s, but i just want ta ask a quick favor from you all. my mother was hospitalized last week thursday, and is still there. she’s in the ICU, and is fighting to get better. now i know you all do not know me, neither she, but trust me if you guys had an opportunity to know her, you’d LOVE her. shit where you think i get it from???….anyhoo, i’d really appreciate, if you guys could throw an extra prayer in there, when y’all are blessing your food, sneezing, asking to win the lottery, hoping the kid ain’t yours, or making prayer at night. i don’t care if you do it in a salat, or if chanting. please, just do it. that would mean a GREAT deal to me.

thanx a GAZZILLION!

ps-i know this ain’t nobody’s dang bizzness, but sometimes you gotta throw the energy out there, so it can come back….ya dig???

peace.

80. Max wrote:

I never implied that you said those things about slavery, Jim Crow laws, or segregation. I merely pointed out the existence of those phenomena; which I am sure you will agree had a profoundly negative and lasting effect on the social, political, and economic standing of African Americans. And when Slavery was abolished, were Black Americans in the clear? Slavery’s over, problem solved? How about 50 years after the Emancipation Proclamation? Did Black people have an equal shot at a good life in America? What makes you think things are peachy 50 years after segregation ended? That’s what I’m asking you. I’m not accusing you of supporting the dehumanization of people of African descent; I’m asking why you won’t recognize the need to address the lasting problems that systematic racism (such as slavery, jim crow, and segregation) has caused. Again, affirmative action is a flawed system; but it performs a necessary function.

Your comparison of the situation of Asian Americans to that of African Americans is flawed. Historically, Asian Americans were not subject to the systematic racism and dehumanization which was the lot of Black Americans from the inception of this country and earlier. I’m not saying atrocities didn’t happen. Obviously the Japanese American Internment was horrible, and echoed of Germany’s actions which caused the war we had just seemed so righteous in winning. But almost all Asian Americans who came here did so of their own free will. They were never treated as slaves and thus were allowed to continue practicing their own religions and customs. Were Black Americans afforded those same luxuries upon their arrival in America? No, they weren’t even considered American. They were considered 3/5ths of a person, and they weren’t even allowed to control what happened to that 3/5ths.

So while I can’t give you the numbers on your irrelevant questions about drug usage and out of wedlock birth rate, I can tell you that those are symptoms of a problem which extends back over four centuries. You must address the underlying cause of a problem before you can expect the symptoms to improve. If a guy has a fever because he’s dehydrated, you don’t give him a cold compress and expect him to get better.

Also, I agree with you about Hillary’s stance on the VP issue.

81. Garrett wrote:

Wouldn’t you like to know,

My family and I will include your mother in our prayers tonight.

Best of luck.

82. Miss Martin wrote:

wyltk–the ancestors and every ounce of positive energy are rallied around your mother-peace and love to you and your mother today and always

83. Max wrote:

My prayers are with you and your mother, wyltk.

84. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

***real tears***

thanx you guys soooooooooo much. i’m on my way out the door now, to go and see her. i really appreciate you guys…i really do….

Garrett, i knew you weren’t so bad.

peace.

85. Garrett wrote:

Conservatives are people, believe it or not, and we have hearts.

We just think that the power for the most profound and effective change comes from the individual, not the government.

86. DCI74 wrote:

My prayers are with you and your family wyltk

87. DCI74 wrote:

Let me try this again Garrett because I had an amazing night so I’m in a great mood!!

My question to you was very simple, how would YOU fix a system to include the very same people it was designed to exclude, since you are against affirmative action.

“DCI74, I answered it. We don’t need any more laws, we don’t need “Thought Police” to make sure we all hold hands. That will never happen. No state-imposed ideal of equality will ever take place. Plus, it will never be enough for leftists.
Slavery is over. Get on with your lives.

So tell again how that is the answer to my question.

88. Garrett wrote:

The current “system” wasn’t designed to exclude anyone. I don’t agree with your premise. We have laws against discrimination. Break the law, get prosecuted, just like we have laws against speeding. I stated the same thought earlier in the thread. Asked and answered.

How about our flawed energy policy? We’ve got vast untapped resources right here in the U.S. It’s way past overdue that we drill off of our coasts and up in Alaska. It can be done safely. Just because we access our resources it doesn’t make us rapacious.

I was born in 1964, so I remember the energy crisis from the 70s and the call for alternative fuels. Where are they? We have nothing that can meet our energy needs. It’s time to build more refineries and drill for oil in our country. The environmentalists against drilling have no solutions to meet our energy needs.

89. San wrote:

You and your family are in my prayers as well WYLTK…keep us posted on any developments.

90. DCI74 wrote:

“The current “system” wasn’t designed to exclude anyone. I don’t agree with your premise.”

Really? So Jim Crow laws were designed to include everybody?? Got it, so in that case the Civil Rights Act of 1964 served no purpose? Ok, thanks for clearing that up. The fact that women weren’t even allowed to own real estate until about 30 years ago didn’t in fact happen because they’ve always been able to do so? Got it. So historically black colleges and universities weren’t even necessary because black students really weren’t denied from mainstream schools, got it, just all in their head I guess. It’s funny you were the one that tossed affirmative action in the mix when referring to Obama and now you want to juxtapose that with environmental issues and Alaska.

Ok, you have completely gone off the deep end, wow.

91. www.rayandsamara.com wrote:

WYLTK,

My prayers are with you and your mother. Peace and Blessings.

~Samara

92. Max wrote:

Garrett have you ever seen a documentary called, “Who Killed the Electric Car?” It’s very interesting and I would suggest it to anyone who is concerned with the seeming lack of sources of alternative energy.

93. Garrett wrote:

I think the same thing about you, DCI74.

I’ll type slowly, maybe you can follow along. I never said that Jim Crow laws didn’t happen and weren’t a terrible thing. Are there Jim Crow laws now? I’ll answer for you: no, there aren’t. All you want to do is freakin’ bitch and moan about how evil whitey was and how the system is still rigged to keep the black man down. Bitch and moan all you want, I think you’re full of crap. For you, the glass will always be half-empty.

Women couldn’t own real estate until 30 years ago, huh? Geez, I wonder how my grandmother’s name was on the title of her house then back in the 1950s?

I started talking about energy policy for something different.
Not to get off the subject.

94. Piscean Princess wrote:

prayers and healing energy from me to you & yours, WYLTK. Please keep us posted.

(and you are a damn fool, BTW! You keep me cracking up over here )

95. Tanya wrote:

WYLTK,

GOD be with you and your mother now and forever! I will prayer for her today.

Remember, the most effective way to prayer is to first Thank GOD for all he has given you, before you ask him for favors.

Lift GOD up in thanksgiving for all your blessings and he WILL deliver your mother. I’m prayering with you!

96. lisa wrote:

I am praying and in tears right now because WYLTK you have touched the heart of God! He watches, He listens, He knows, He is merciful and compassionate. And most of all He LOVES YOU! He understands your love and concern for your mother. He’s present everywhere, you may have sensed His presence today. God’s there, listening for all who pray, for all who pray and mean it. He reaches out to us – we may or may not respond but – God reaches out to us. No, God is not a genie in a bottle, a sweet grandfather, or even a busy dad…He is Yahweh – translated, the One who is, I cause to be, I AM. He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. Yahweh is God and He is a good God. You can trust Him completely even if you may not understand His actions, you can trust his heart.

(I actually mentioned you in my prayer this morning and during bible study with a few friends this afternoon before I realized your request for prayer. I also prayed for God to forgive me for being such a knuckle-head and to keep me focused on what’s important )

97. jacob wrote:

Hi all,
I often think about god but find it hard to believe in him. I have been baptised, communed and confirmed but my education in science and philosophy has made me doubt his existence. This said, in times of great need i find myself falling back to prayer like when people around me have passed, in the minutes before big exams or when i watched as my dog died but i prayed for her survival.
I just can’t get my head around the idea that he exists. If he was interventionist then why wouldnt he alter our actions and if he isn’t an interventionist, then what is the point of god existing at all? If anything i would consider myself an agnostic, and i do like to believe in a higher power.
I’m not sure that i agree with the conventional confines of the church and the notion of a sin. I really do believe that i am a good person despite the fact that i swear reasonably often and consume alcohol etc, i think that things like this are reasonably trivial and that traits like compassion, empathy and generosity are far more important than passing actions. My definition of passing actions is that i’m not spending all of my time drunk or abusing verbally etc.

give me your thoughts!

98. jacob wrote:

Also, i live in Australia, so i’m reasonably distant from American politics. But i like to remain informed and have been confronted with the same problems in US politics as in Australian politics. I find it hard to understand how the general public seem unable to see what is good for them.
People will tend to vote republican purely out of a religious or racist alignment but won’t bother to pay attention to real matters like the growing divide between poor and rich, the restriction of education and access to healthcare. Basically i believe in equality and that all people should have a chance to become whoever they want and should always be judged on merit and not face value.

How can this be changed?

Also, i havnt seen much of Dr.Hill’s work on FOX, but a couple of video’s where he’s gone head to head with O’Reilly have really annoyed me. O’Reilly seems so ignorant and also very arrogant especially in the argument with Hill and Dyson. Hill’s arguments were so ridiculously well founded and O’Reilly would simply talk over the top or reply with “well people may agree or disagree”.

Also, i’m not a huge fan of hip-hop, although i do get into it occasionally. throw me some names, and give a listen to the “hilltop hoods”, probs the biggest australian hip-hop group, they’re a bit different but sound great. and don’t gimme Dre or 50cent or Lil’jon and stuff that i’ve heard of!

thanks guys

99. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

again, i want to thank everyone for their kind words and sentiment. i sincerly appreciate everyone’s efforts. right now is a very tough time for me, and i’m trying very hard to remain positive, so i needed this. more importantly, my Mother needs this. my mother is well well loved…i mean, people are coming out of the woodworks to show their love and support, and to have you guys extend your prayers and love like this, is like the cherry on top, and for that i’m appreciative, and grateful.

right now, she’s very heavly sedated, but i’ll make sure to tell her about all the e-love she’s been getting!
i’ll be sure to keep you all posted.

thanx again, words can’t express how thankful i am.

i’ll make sure to keep all of you in my prayers as well.

from me to you all, here’s a great BIG HUG and wet sloppy kiss MUAHHHHH!!!!!

peace and a whole lotta LOVE!

100. DCI74 wrote:

Glad to hear that wyltk, keep us posted.

Garrett, you won’t find any post on here of my as you say bitching and moaning “about how evil whitey was and how the system is still rigged to keep the black man down.” You and I both know that I more than many others on this site am always talking about personal responsibility but that recognition of a structure built on racism while should not be ignored should also not be used as a blanket excuse, so I’m not sure how you gleaned that perspective about me but whatever. Regardless of what you think of me I don’t think you’re full of crap you just don’t see the point I’ve been trying to make. You don’t feel that affirmative action is an effect response to fixing the original system built on racism and I get that, which is the crux of our entire back and forth. You clearly feel that 50 years of civil rights legislature is plenty of time to right 300 years of slavery and Jim Crow laws that have kept an entire group of people consistently behind and on that issues we will always disagree. If think for one second I embody a black man that complains and makes excuses based on racism then I guess you really haven’t been paying attention to the range of comments I’ve left on this blog since its inception.