1. Blaxx wrote:

Be able to dress like a woman in every black movie he produces, not just the ones based on his plays.

2. Logic wrote:

…have the courage to come out of the closet.

3. Ann wrote:

What Tyler has been able to do is historic. Kudos to him.

4. Ebonita wrote:

LOL@ Logic

5. Z wrote:

hopefully help employ more black actors, producers, writers etc.

6. Blaxx wrote:

Yeah bravo to him Ann. He’s still a homosexual

7. Ann wrote:

@Blaxx: and if he is what of it??????????????????

8. DCI74 wrote:

Good for him and those that like his work.

9. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

LOL Blaxx, you’re a damn fool!

Ann you know you done started something right??

**scurrying away before bottles start flinging**

10. Miss Martin wrote:

HOOOOORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Finally some good news…

11. JustL wrote:

stop writing everything and allow some other writers with talent do the work.

I must say that I am glad that he was able to do this. I’m not going to lie I like some of his work I just wish he would work with other writers to produce better material.

SIDENOTE: Although I know its not a Tyler Perry movie but did This Christmas ever get released to DVD? That was an ok movie! I just had a problem with the character name of Loretta Devine.

12. Blaxx wrote:

Sorry, I should have said he is a closet homosexual. There’s nothing wrong with being gay, just don’t hide it. Just like there’s nothing wrong about being a correctional officer, just don’t hide it, then lie about it, then admit it a couple months later.

Ain’t that right, Officer Rawse?!?

http://www.defsounds.com/news/Rick_ross_finally_admits_co_past

13. Blaxx wrote:

JustL, This Christmas gets released on DVD on November 11, 2008. There’s a long story behind why it took so long that I don’t care to get into right now.

14. ChgoSista wrote:

DC, u win the “politically correct” award with that comment!

15. Mike wrote:

Perry will produce a weekly black news special called Dr. Hill’s Barbershop…what do you think about that idea?

16. DCI74 wrote:

Lol and see I wasn’t even trying to be PC, I’m just not a fan but I acknowledge his accomplishment. It is surprising that he’s the first when you consider how many bankable Hollywood actors of color there have been over the years like Denzel, Eddie, Will, or Chris Tucker that perhaps could have done something like this sooner.

17. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

See DC, i think we have that “aquarian connection”
Exactly, what was/is everybody else doing??? i mean i give a brother/sister props for doing their thing, but if you gonna do your thing, then, DO YA THANG. i’m tired of some of these in the way ass folks that’s just worried about money. it’s time we as a people start doing things for our damn selves, and stop being everyone else’s hoe.

ok i know you didn’t say it like that, but you know i’m never PC. I’ll leave that to you with your nice self

18. ChgoSista wrote:

Or shit, Oprah!!! ((scratching my head))

19. ChgoSista wrote:

I am SO conflicted when it comes to Emmett Tyler Perry; on the one hand, I can’t help BUT be proud of and admire him, but on the other hand, ehhh, I don’t know…

20. jay wrote:

Good for him. C’mon people. This is huge. Let’s give it up to the brotha for this accomplishment!

Then tomorrow, we can talk about his movies….ya know?

21. Piscean Princess wrote:

Then on Thursday can we talk about the writers he fired for wanting union wages?

22. zak wrote:

…fire a relative of mine, a writer House of Payne, along with two other writers because they inquired about health benefits.

23. Blaxx wrote:

It is surprising that he’s the first when you consider how many bankable Hollywood actors of color there have been over the years like Denzel, Eddie, Will, or Chris Tucker that perhaps could have done something like this sooner.

Comment by DCI74 — October 7, 2008 @ 3:49 pm

They have production companies, not studios. Will has Overbrook Entertainment and the name of Denzel’s company escapes me at the moment

24. Clifton Harrison wrote:

and the wayans brothers were (might still be) trying to open a studio out here in the bay area, but i don’t know what happened…

Great accomplishment on Tyler perrys part..

25. Samuel wrote:

…get a white girl.

26. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

…start making madea dolls with removable wigs and matching guns and pocketbooks.

27. Derwin wrote:

… start making quality black porn

28. Regkam2 wrote:

start making historical movies dealing with African and African American history (Marcus Garvey, Ella Baker, Booker T Washington, Queen Nzinga, Imhotep)……..NOT!!!

Back to Reality, keep making the same formula, drama filled films with a touch of effeminization of black males.

29. Blaxx wrote:

LMAO @ Derwin

30. DCI74 wrote:

And that’s my point Blaxx, to me, and this is not intended to be disrespectful because I admire his work but, an actor like Will Smith having a production company is like an artist having a boutique label when the real power is on the studio side in the movie business and on the distribution side in the music business. What Tyler Perry has done is great again I’m just surprised it hasn’t been done until now.

31. Blaxx wrote:

Well a studio cost a lot more to establish and maintain than a production company so I consider them smarter. If this doesn’t pan out for Tyler Perry he’s going to be in the hole big time. Like Chris Rock said, there is a large divide between those who are rich and those who are wealthy.

32. Wowee wrote:

That’s the problem with Black folk…

If it were a White person all you would hear is “Congratulatons” even in his alleged gayness. We are such unneccessary haters at times.

LORD!

33. ChgoSista wrote:

@ #24: Now I’m WIT’ DAT!!!!

TMI? Hahahaaaa…

34. Piscean Princess wrote:

# 24 & # 28….ditto

but only if he hires someone else to do the writing

35. clifton harrison wrote:

where did this conversation go…

36. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

Blaxx, i feel you, but that’s only when you’re doing stuff for money. Money, to me, shouldn’t be the number 1 priority. that’s why music and black cinema are in the shitter right now. Sometimes (all the time) we have to do things that can benefit our own in a more significant way. shit, white folks and everybody else has been doing it for a very long time now. It’s time black people stop being the whore, and start doing more for ourselves, whether it flops or not. that’s a risk more should have the balls to take.

sometimes (all the time) we have to challenge the status quo.

I’m tired of muthafuggas that’s only interested in chasing that paper, and could careless about the future generations that gotta eat too. i’m just sick of the shit already.

did anybody see the pic of janet jackson insinuating fellatio on stage at her concert??? how fuckin’ long is she gonna keep that kind of bullshit up, before she decides to open up a studio for little girls with big dreams??? she’s been doing that shit for years, and still have done nothing significant for black people. she’s damn near in the geriatric unit, and is still prancing around in a sequence bra. what is that for young black women to look up to??? that’s that ho shit i’m talking about. and believe me, we have male and female prostitutes out here.

it’s a new day and a new time, and it’s time we get with the program.

37. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

white folks and everybody else have been*

38. DCI74 wrote:

Wow wyltk lol, I feel you. Just reading your second paragraph reminded me of Smokin’ Aces, did you see that flick? The scene when Taraji Henson’s character went on a pro-female rant in the hotel lobby, the shit was hilarious.

39. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

lol, no DC i haven’t seen it yet, but it is on “on demand”, so i may just watch it tonight. i’m no good at keeping up with movies. i don’t mean to rant, but certain shit disgust me after a while. i’m sick of people letting the system pimp them.

ok i feel another rant coming on. . .

40. Terrence wrote:

congrats to the man…i share the same sentiments of many…man is doing big things…however he really does need better writers…i actually think his work has gotten worse…

41. JustL wrote:

Blaxx, what happened to the film? Thanks for the update, I liked the Christmas film.

42. ChgoSista wrote:

@ #31: I’mma roll witchoo on that. I don’t know WHAT the fuck is up with Janet. It’s like she’s in some weird kind of artistic arrested development or something. It’s time to parlay her career into the next phase…

43. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

yup yup chgosista, it’s time (been time) she did something for her people. and it’s countless other silly moFo’s out here that i could go the hell off on, but she was one of the first that came to mind. I mean all that belly shirt and tight shit was cool when you were 20 (janet), but come the fuck on now.

if i were her, i could not live with myself knowing that damn near my whole career consist of me riding some fool on stage, giving “blow jobs”, singing like a baby, and having sex with midgets. i’d practically be ready to shoot myself.
i mean, no offense to midgets.

she’s done so much, yet, has done nothing.
shorty (janet, not jermaine) has nothing in her name!
shit, kerry hilson holds more weight than her, and she’s kinda new to the game. shoot, at least she writes her own shit (and others)!

Janet made them pimp her and that is why her legacy, at least to me, is going down the drain. how the hell do you recoup after you blew some man on stage at 50, HOW??? shit is impossible. (bitch better start investing in some other endeavors man)

aiight i’m done with my fucking ranting. GOOD MORNING!

44. naomi christine wrote:

parenthetically, i love y’all’s dialogue…

45. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

and the bitch had a shot with Tupac, how fucking dumb could you be??? things that make you go HMMMMMMMMM. . .

46. ChgoSista wrote:

WYLTK: I took our ‘argument’ to my friends–all DIE HARD Janet fans, and this is one of them said to us! LOL!

“Black people, Black music and their icons…black folk are turncoats when it comes to their musical icons..and YES Janet is an icon. Then the “geriatric” generation has the audacity to complain about the music they hear but won’t support people. That goes way beyond Janet Jackson. A lot of folk that we think have fell off continue to enjoy careers everywhere but in America. White folk aren’t telling Mick Jagger he’s too old to be running around doing what he does on stage..and he 20 years older than Janet. Ain’t nobody telling Madonna she’s too old!”

47. james wrote:

chgosista, i don’t think i get the gist of your friend’s comment. mick jagger, madonna are much more a part of musical history than janet jackson. she’s not in their league at all. janet jackson is not an icon. her brother is.

48. ALLEGRO wrote:

….continue making CRAPPY movies and TV shows.

How is he the first? OPRAH owns everything she has…her own production company and studios.

I know SPIKE aint too happy about this…lol.

49. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

let me also add james, when i speaking, i’m speaking for BLACK PEOPLE. i’m talking about what black men and women have to look up to and forward to. i could careless about mick jagger and madonna. Whites and other cultures have plenty to look up to and foward to.

what exactly has janet done, but put on some make-up, costumes, and “whored”??? the woman hasn’t written anything, produced anything, opened up any businesses, NADA. she was just a pretty face that sold for her “pimps”. at least madonna and ‘em OWN their shit. she’s also written children’s books etc. Janet need to sit her as down, and i say that with all due respect. . .

that “whoring” shit is cool when you’re young, and is just starting the game, but after a while you must branch off and be your own person, your own damn boss.

and might i add, give your people a little something something to look up to, besides your damn skirt. It’s my people that are at the bottem and are suffering “mentally”, so if you are of color and you are blessed with the opportunity to hold a mic and people are listening, then use it for the better good. that’s all i’m trying to say.

50. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

sorry for all the typos, i’m friggin’ heated!

51. james wrote:

wyltk, i know you’re hot about janet, but perhaps she just doesn’t have the desire, clout, or talent to be what you want her to be for the black community. she is, after all, only a minor pop star, and whites have plenty of those also. brittany spears for example.

52. ChgoSista wrote:

James & WYLTK, I sent her you guys’ comments and am awaiting her rebuttal–she’s an argumentative heffa, so she’s probably typing a novella as we speak!

53. ChgoSista wrote:

But in Jan’s defense though, isn’t she involved in some initiative w/Colin Powell?

54. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

you’re right james, really, i’m just using janet as an example. it’s plenty more where that came from. my point is, what the fuck is some of these bastards with money doing to help our people?? why does it seem like so many of them are lost to the fucking world??? believe me, it’s bigger than janet. i know it seems like i’m singling her out, but again, she’s just the example.

i feel like some of these Black people that are in the lime light are a waste of space. if it’s not gonna help my people then, they need to get the fuck out of the way, and make room for some that actually want to help.

black people are very impressionable, they follow whatever they think is cool. if you as an artist knows that, why not make them follow a good example, considering our race is in the shitter??? i’m just saying. . .

it seems like some are just so freakin’ delusional.

55. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

exactly my point chgo, she need to take the “initiative” with her own life, instead of with everyone else. i’m begining to think she loves being a whore.

“involved in some initiative” smh.

ok i’m seriously done ‘ranting’!
stop pushing my damn buttons y’all!!!

56. james wrote:

wyltk: as far as i know, black people are no more impressionable than any other race. and this is an age-old argument regarding artists, athletes and entertainers. how much more accountable and socially responsible should they be? or are they simply humans?

is your entire race really in the shitter?

57. ChgoSista wrote:

“Let me add that the very same folk who suddenly have a problem with Ms. Jackson was probably some of her biggest fans now all of a sudden much too sophisticated…and while she hasn’t been in the business as long as her brother Michael, she is an icon whether you like it or not. She’s the blueprint for all of the nontalented chicks you see today. I find it awfully hypocritical and utterly hilarious that folk wanna put chains on a grown ass woman’s sensuality, but probably enjoy witnessing the gyration of little girls barely out of high school. Folk tend to overlook that she was very age appropriate when she first came unto the scene unlike the floosies of today. Janet was dayum near 30 before she even baring her abdomen via half cut tshirt all the WHILE wearing a pair of jeans in her Love Will Never Do video. So in actuality, if anybody did any “whoring”, at least she was old enough to make it her own decision while doing so.

I hope Janet keeps doing what she’s doing. I don’t know how old these cats are but 42 yrs old is full grown not dead. I hope no woman allows others to put chains on their sensuality..namely not some dude who probably still pop in hiphop tapes repeating bitch that and ho this lyrics.

The point of highlighting Madonna who yeah, just pimps her African adopted son for the media..the point of highlighting her and Mick Jagger is that white folk are loyal fans to the end. You are an icon and they are not going to fall to the wayside just cause the media started some which hunt. Negroes are the same as always..hot as long as ur hot…and about as loyal as Michael Vick’s turned state evidence friends. People shitted all over Jill Scott’s lastest cd. Why? Cause that album was more sexual and not the I’m the around the way girl walking in the park picking daisies chick. She was a grown woman owning her desires. She likes dick too.

And as many people that are in this world, there are many people for folk to look up to. I bet not one person who takes issues with Janet because of this image and role model nonsense own every India Arie cd to which there’s only 3 and she’s the polar opposite with an entirely different message. There’s an audience for everyone. Nor is everyone supposed to be your child’s role model. If Janet don’t suit your taste. So be it. Find another jar to eat out of.”

58. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

james to make it clear, i’m speaking for the “HOOD”. where i was born and raised. i see first hand how impressionable the youths are. considering i’m one my self(24). I have a pulse to the streets. i see what’s fucking us up EVERYDAY. i don’t just read about it in the newspaper. please notice i use the word “some” a lot. yes she’s only human(so i think), again i’m using her as an example. me personally i have a few endeavors up my sleeve, and their not just to benefit me. it’s to benefit my people as a whole. i can’t speak for everyone, i can only speak for myself, and lend an opinion.

Hooray for the few blacks that are really doing their thing.
Alot of people that are making significant changes are not in the public eye. it pisses me off when some blacks get a break, all they can think about is how to whore and make more money. completely forgetting where they came from.

isn’t she from the ghetto of gary indiana??? i’m pretty sure if we go there right now, it’s still a ghetto.

and yes i think it’s safe to say our race is in the shitter, but that does not mean we can’t get out.

if the bulk of the race is in the shitter, then we all are.
(muthafuggas are so selfish!)

it’s not an “I” thing, it’s a “we” thing. the sooner muthafuckas get that through their heads the better.

59. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

ok james, i definitly just posted a rebuttal to your comment 50, and it did not post(it was kinda long, kinda) so i can’t re type it right now. if the Doc would find my comments for me, then it would really help me out *hint hint*.

and chgosista i didn’t read your friends comment yet i’ll get to it, but i have to run out the door for a couple. i’ll be back to finish this discussion in a few.

peace.

60. wouldn't you like to know? wrote:

that’s the second comment in this thread that did not post, i ope this isn’t the third. james i already posted for you, but it didn’t show, and chgo i gotta run for a couple, i’ll get back to your friend’s response.

DOC GET MY COMMENTS PLEASE!!!!!!! i ain’t to proud to beg, NO!

61. james wrote:

this should go without saying, but not all white people are loyal fans of madonna or mick jagger. they do, however, have a pretty solid base because they were major trend setters. janet jackson, i repeat, has never been a trend setter. she is well-admired, sells well, and appears to be an inspiration to many younger performers, but her musical and political influence, in my opinion, does not amount to influence and experimentation of madonna or the front man of for the rolling stones, or equal, for that matter, her brother’s status as innovator and performer.

62. ChgoSista wrote:

“Oh shit a pretty solid base…aka what the fuck i said…white folk still support their musical legends. Mick Jagger was a trendsetter?! You better research that fully. He took his stage presence from Tina Turner, his wannabe funk from Ike Turner and his whole band name from the title of a Muddy Waters song. LOL. Janet is inspirational huh…this is but mere watering down and refusal to admit my previous point. Janet “The Trendsetter” Jackson started and heavily influenced the performance style that Brittany Spears, Ciara, Rhiana, Christina Aguilera, etc Janet “The Trendsetter” Jackson revived the impact of Cab Calloway and exposed him to a younger generation via her Alright video. And she’s written some of her own songs might I add.

One shouldn’t be looking to entertainers for politics no how. If one is, that’s a personal problem. They’re not obligated to you. Conversely, Janet’s Rhythm Nation album was entirely about world politics and injustices. An album by the way takes the courage of an INNOVATIVE artist to make as a follow-up album when your biggest album Control came before it. I know we’re deep into the paparazzi era, but every charity, political, and outreach effort of a star ain’t your business. Quite frankly many of them do a lot of things with their financial backing and support but without their name so the concentration will be on the ultimate goal and not the celebrity.”

63. ChgoSista wrote:

I’m thinkin’ I should just stop playing “messenger” and make her ass join the ‘Barbershop’.

Y’all think TANYA is a handful… LOL…

64. james wrote:

yes, and all of those people on jackson’s list of influences are musically and politically inferior to madonna.

i’m well aware of the influences on mick jagger; he picked very well. tina turner and muddy waters are equally as impressive as mick jagger, if not more so.

cab calloway doesn’t need janet jackson to keep him alive.

bb king is a legend, not janet jackson. janet jackson, in the end, will be remembered more for her wardrobe malfunction than any of her music.

65. Logic wrote:

ChgoSista,

When I saw those long ass posts, I thought it was Tanya until I got to the end and saw your name. Its passion.

66. ChgoSista wrote:

Logic, they’re from my girl–not me–but I hear ya!

67. natural nubian wrote:

chgo , i needed that laugh! your girl is a mess!

68. Samuel wrote:

Didn’t the evolution of Madonna AND Janet spawn the debacle that IS Britney Spears. I mean, the girl became a valid pop icon that has rivaled both but now that she’s gone through some crazy shit somebody wants to declare that she’s nowhere near the essence that is Madonna. Newsflash: Madonna was and still is a crazy bitch too… and so is Mick Jagger.