1. Tanya wrote:

“Thou shall NOT kill.” – The 6th Commandment

I stand firmly on the pro-life platform!

2. Garrett wrote:

It’s a baby, not a choice.

3. james wrote:

tanya and garrett, we kill things all the time, by choice. ask george bush; killing is not really that big of a deal. and the majority of things we kill aren’t growing inside a woman’s body.

in a culture where we can create life at the drop of hat, we certainly must also afford the same means of destroying life, obviously within the current limits. you cannot have a culture of life without a culture of death as well. life and death are infinitely bound to each other. any other philosophical position is not even attempting to get close to a moral consistency.

outlaw war and the death penalty, perhaps then you would convince me that we care more about life than death.

4. Garrett wrote:

“. . . we certainly must also afford the same means of destroying life, obviously within the current limits.”

Nope, don’t agree with that premise.

5. james wrote:

okay, garrett, that’s fine, but do you have any ideas about why you don’t agree with me?

6. Garrett wrote:

Sure do.

If you want to suggest that someone like Mother Teresa, who believed that all life is sacred, even that of a convicted pedophile, is the model we should strive for, go right ahead.

Me, I see a difference between someone that rapes children and a baby in the womb.

7. james wrote:

garrett, while i’m not really sure how mother teresa felt about convicted pedophiles, i will agree there are many differences between a fetus and a pedophile: but what are those differences to you? and how do those differences apply to your philosophy of life and death?

8. Garrett wrote:

In short, one life is worth saving/protecting, the other is not.

While a baby may grow into a pedophile at some point in his/her life is besides the point in my book.

9. james wrote:

garrett, okay, that makes sense; you are somehow positioned to determine the innocence of a fetus. what if the fetus was established by the condemned pepophile? should your daughter carry this baby to term because of its innocence?

10. Garrett wrote:

Yes, I am positioned to determine the innocence of a baby.

11. james wrote:

garrett, you do realize that an unborn baby is a fetus, no? that a baby isn’t a baby until it’s born, and that fetuses, especially very young ones, don’t really possess the same legal rights as babies, which means there can be no argument for innonence or guilt.

12. lisa wrote:

Genesis 25:19-28 specifically verse 22. God does not in any way sanction abortion…man sanctions abortion!

13. james wrote:

lisa, while the bible is an excellent literary, historical and spiritual resource, i don’t think quoting bible verses is productive to any discussion about abortion.

14. Garrett wrote:

Wrongo, james. In many, many ways.

15. lisa wrote:

God does not normally interfere when we make bad choices, instead God may very well let us live with the consequences, and possibly, possibly learn from them. It’s called Free Will.

Ignoring the literary, historical and spiritual pronouncements of God’s Word found in the Holy Bible frees you to decide on a Pro-abortion stance for instance…this is your choice, your free will in action but don’t get it twisted and think God does not have an opinion about abortion for those seeking the wisdom that comes from above…because it is revealed.

God is good and He understands the difficult, mind-numbing choices we face daily which is why He asks us daily to turn to Him because His yoke is easy and his burden light and He would like to be in a LOVE RELATIONSHIP with you showing you daily you are not alone, not even in the deepest recesses of your heart…a void only He can fill. But he doesn’t take by force…you have to invite Him into your life first and into your decisions as a result of the invitation.

Man makes decisions and passes laws but that doesn’t mean they are the RIGHT ones!

16. james wrote:

lisa, being in favor of choice is not a pro-abortion stance.

17. Tanya wrote:

James,

How is it that you so desperately lack morals? At least this is what most of your comments tend to suggest.

You shared a sad tail about your father, and I can’t help but wonder what else you may of experienced in your life that allows you to not only say, but actually gives you the gall to WRITE, in a public forum:

“killing is not really that big of a deal” and “in a culture where we can create life at the drop of hat, we certainly must also afford the same means of destroying life”.

Do you really believe this non-sense or do you just think it makes you sound cool and edgy to suggest it?????

Only GOD gives life and only GOD is rightful in taking it; not us.

War is a completely different circumstance. The bible says to purge the evil from amongst you. The only war that is justified in the wars of the Onward Christian Soldiers who fight in the name of Jesus for GOD. All other wars are as wrong as abortion.

18. james wrote:

tanya, perhaps they are new to you, but there is nothing wrong with my morals or ideas. morals and ideas are relative, situational, and subjective, as is our various relationships to god.

19. Garrett wrote:

Ahhh . . . the moral relativity argument. Lame.

20. james wrote:

garrett, there is nothing lame about my belief and value system. i did not come by it without continuous and significant study. and with an agile mind and body, i’m capable of upgrading my beliefs and values at any time, which allows me to be the highly competitive puppet of love that i am. go ahead, pull my string….

21. Garrett wrote:

If you pull my finger.

Maybe you could upgrade your beliefs to include using capital letters when needed.

22. Tanya wrote:

LOL, Garrett, I’m with you!!!